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    • Jo-TL
      Jo-TL last edited by

      There is a problem within the handling of e-mail senders from the header.

      If I get the fake mail:

      From:  knownsender@trusted.de <falsesender@untrusted.net>
      

      It’s shown as

      knownsender@trusted.de <knownsender@trusted.de>
      

      the real sender is not extracted by webapp, because it seams to match only the first adress that can be found. Thats a risk in this times.

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      • fbartels
        fbartels Kopano last edited by

        Please also post the version you are using and if possible an eml file with which the error can be reproduced.

        Regards Felix

        Resources:
        https://kopano.com/blog/how-to-get-kopano/
        https://documentation.kopano.io/
        https://kb.kopano.io/

        Support overview:
        https://kopano.com/support/

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        • Jo-TL
          Jo-TL @fbartels last edited by

          @fbartels
          WebApp: 3.4.5.1202+46.1
          Kopano Core: 8.4.3.4

          The problem are spam mails with sender spoofing like this test, that can’t be identified in webapp because of the wrong handling:

          [~] # telnet 10.45.8.1 25
          220 server6-kopano ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)
          ehlo there
          mail from: unknownuser@trusted.net
          250 2.1.0 Ok
          rcpt to: me@example.de
          250 2.1.5 Ok
          DATA
          354 End data with <CR><LF>.<CR><LF>
          From: knownsender@trusted.de <unknownsender@untrusted.net>
          Subject: testmail
          
          Testing 123
          .
          250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 79447160250
          

          In the message options the full internet header is shown

          Return-Path: <unknownuser@trusted.net>
          Received: from server6-kopano (127.0.0.1:59782)
          	by server6-kopano (kopano-dagent) with LMTP;
          	Tue, 13 Feb 2018 08:49:13 +0100 (CET)
          Received: from there (unknown [10.45.8.2])
          	by server6-kopano (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79447160250
          	for <me@example.de>; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 08:48:10 +0100 (CET)
          From: knownsender@trusted.de <unknownsender@untrusted.net>
          Subject: testmail
          

          The webapp frontend only shows:

          Testmail
          knownsender@trusted.de <knownsender@trusted.de>
          

          the mail object in the frontend is not created with all possible informations.

          The eml file is created from the mail object

          Return-Path: <unknownuser@trusted.net>
          Received: from server6-kopano (127.0.0.1:59782) by server6-kopano
           (kopano-dagent)  with LMTP; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 08:49:13 +0100
          Received: from there (unknown [10.45.8.2])  by server6-kopano (Postfix) with
           ESMTP id 79447160250 for <me@example.de>; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 08:48:10 +0100
          Subject: testmail
          From: knownsender@trusted.de
          To: undisclosed-recipients:;
          Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 08:58:17 +0100
          Mime-Version: 1.0
          Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
          Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
          
          Testing 123
          
          
          

          The spoofing was sucessfull.

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          • Jo-TL
            Jo-TL last edited by

            additional header information in the webapp frontend would be awesome

            https://forum.kopano.io/topic/852/feature-request-show-more-detailed-sender-information

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            • marty
              marty Kopano (Inactive) last edited by marty

              @Jo-TL
              I’ ve created https://jira.kopano.io/browse/KW-2367 to fix the issue

              and
              https://jira.kopano.io/browse/KW-2368 for the detailed info

              Thanks for the feedback.

              https://documentation.kopano.io/deskapp_admin_manual
              http://documentation.kopano.io/webapp_smime_manual
              https://documentation.kopano.io/webapp_admin_manual

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              • Jo-TL
                Jo-TL last edited by

                In addition to the ticket:
                it would be better if kopano match the last found email address instead of the first one and take the beginning of the from field as name string.

                In that way no information’s will be lost and it’s more save against spoofing attacks.

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                • fbartels
                  fbartels Kopano last edited by

                  fyi we have opened a pull request at the upstream library (vmime). the pr can be found at https://github.com/kisli/vmime/pull/192

                  Regards Felix

                  Resources:
                  https://kopano.com/blog/how-to-get-kopano/
                  https://documentation.kopano.io/
                  https://kb.kopano.io/

                  Support overview:
                  https://kopano.com/support/

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                  • Jo-TL
                    Jo-TL last edited by

                    push, what’s going on with this security fix?

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                    • fbartels
                      fbartels Kopano last edited by

                      Hi @Jo-TL ,

                      the issue was resolved through the patch with the upstream library. If you are using our packages you have meanwhile received an updated libvmime-kopano1 package. If you are using other packages you have to bug the maintainer of your libvmime package.

                      Regards Felix

                      Resources:
                      https://kopano.com/blog/how-to-get-kopano/
                      https://documentation.kopano.io/
                      https://kb.kopano.io/

                      Support overview:
                      https://kopano.com/support/

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                      • Jo-TL
                        Jo-TL last edited by

                        An upgrade didn’t solve the issue for me.

                        WebApp: 3.4.24.1929+84.1
                        Kopano Core: 8.6.8
                        libvmime-kopano1/stable,now 0.9.2.50+11.1 amd64 [installiert]

                        It seams to be parsed not correctly for webapp

                        Example

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                        • fbartels
                          fbartels Kopano last edited by

                          Hi @Jo-TL ,

                          when you last posted in this thread I have verified the behaviour with the example posted in https://jira.kopano.io/browse/KC-1044. For me it did show up correctly in WebApp (although I cannot say with certainty which webapp version I used during the test).

                          Can you provide a test message that still shows the old behaviour?

                          Regards Felix

                          Resources:
                          https://kopano.com/blog/how-to-get-kopano/
                          https://documentation.kopano.io/
                          https://kb.kopano.io/

                          Support overview:
                          https://kopano.com/support/

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                          • Jo-TL
                            Jo-TL last edited by Jo-TL

                            ok, then a part of the problem is already fixed, but there are also spoofing mails like the following.

                            the best solution would be to match the end of the string

                            Return-Path: <m.alberts@kopano.com>
                            Received: from malberts-kopano.zarafa.lan ([::ffff:127.0.0.1]:48640)
                            	by malberts-kopano (kopano-dagent) with LMTP;
                            	Tue, 13 Feb 2018 09:30:41 +0100 (CET)
                            Received: from malberts-kopano (localhost [127.0.0.1])
                            	by malberts-kopano.zarafa.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75950940008
                            	for <m.alberts@kopano.com>; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 09:30:41 +0100 (CET)
                            Received: by malberts-kopano (kopano-spooler) with MAPI; Tue, 13 Feb 2018
                             09:30:41 +0100
                            Subject: martijn eml
                            From: Your Boss <yourboss@kopano.de> <secretlysomeoneelse@kopano.net>
                            To: =?utf-8?Q?martijn_Test?= <m.alberts@kopano.com>
                            Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 09:30:41 +0100
                            Mime-Version: 1.0
                            Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
                            Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
                            X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
                            X-Mailer: Kopano 8.5.80
                            Message-Id: <kcim.5a82a231.1b9c.741b3c847dcfcaaf@malberts-kopano>
                            
                            <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://ww=
                            w.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd"><html>
                            <head>
                              <meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Kopano WebApp vdevel">
                              <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8=
                            ">
                              <title>martijn eml</title>
                            </head>
                            <body>
                            <p style=3D"padding: 0; margin: 0;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-=
                            family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><br /></span></p>
                            </body>
                            </html>
                            
                            
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                            • fbartels
                              fbartels Kopano @Jo-TL last edited by

                              Hi @Jo-TL ,

                              thanks for the example. So the difference in these two cases is:

                              $ diff martijn.eml email-spoof.eml
                              11c11
                              < From: yourboss@kopano.de <secretlysomeoneelse@kopano.net>
                              ---
                              > From: Your Boss <yourboss@kopano.de> <secretlysomeoneelse@kopano.net>
                              34d33
                              <
                              

                              I have created https://jira.kopano.io/browse/KC-1350 with some additional details for followup.

                              Regards Felix

                              Resources:
                              https://kopano.com/blog/how-to-get-kopano/
                              https://documentation.kopano.io/
                              https://kb.kopano.io/

                              Support overview:
                              https://kopano.com/support/

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                              • thctlo
                                thctlo last edited by thctlo

                                That message is clearly a spam message.
                                If you look you see : From "Some name " <some@email.tld> <someotherspammer@email.tld>

                                Add this to you spamassassin config.

                                header MULTI_FROM_ADDRESS From =~ /^.*<.*@.*>.*<.*@.*>/i
                                score MULTI_FROM_ADDRESS 5.0
                                describe MULTI_FROM_ADDRESS Multiple senders in From: header
                                
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                                • djtremors
                                  djtremors last edited by

                                  welcome to RFC2822 headers is non verifiable and even good mail servers exploit the idiocy of these headers ie “From: YourPersonalServices” and is meant to be a proper service. The header From can have anything it wants and it’s up to your mail system (not really kopano) to block this if it looks wrong.

                                  My exim verifies many conditions before it even hits rspamd rules and I kick quite a lot of spam/invalid/faked emails.
                                  exim can pull out the header from domain in the email address, if empty, it’s invalid… good or bad…

                                  I’ve moved away from postfix due to the cumbersome ways to put filters and I used it for many years too.

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                                  • Jo-TL
                                    Jo-TL last edited by

                                    Sure it’s a spam massage.

                                    But kopano/vmime gives a “wrong result” parsing the from field, so obfuscated sender in spoofing mails stay hidden.
                                    .
                                    Everybody can block mails like this, but a correct result in the frontend makes the world better ;)

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                                    • Jo-TL
                                      Jo-TL last edited by

                                      In addition of the vmime pull request/open ticket from november:

                                      In my opinion it should match the following from types:
                                      sender@domain.com
                                      Named Sender sender@domain.com
                                      Named Sender fakedSender@domain.com sender@domain.com

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