PST-Viewer inside of Kopano Deskapp

mcdaniels

Hi folks,
I don’t know if I am at the right place, cause this is some kind of feature request.

I am migrating about 80 users from Kopano <-> Outlook 2010 to Kopano Deskapp. As many of my users use PST-Files for archiving older mails, I am running in some kind of issue here.

1.) I can’t import the PST files to kopano, cause we have got a max. mailbox size of 1,5GB/User. A lot of the pst-files are way bigger.
2.) I can’t include the PST-File to deskapp, cause there is no possibility to do so.
3.) The users will use Outlook to view the pst-files and I am sure that they will carry on using it for mailing also, as long as the shared calenders etc. will work. (Thanks to MS this functionality will be killed at almost every update)

So it would be very cool if there would be a option to include the pst-file within the Deskapp without importing it.

What do you think?

mcostan

I can’t speak for Kopano but I think it would be a very difficult one to do as Deskapp is a client only application (same as webapp).

That sais, why is 1) a problem? Can’t you just increate the size for user? Diskspace is cheap these days.

eli

Disk space should not be a problem, but the performance and the recovery time in case of server issues. Also if users synchronizing there mobile devices or Outlook - they do it for everything on the server.
So for our users archiving is a must, and they want ho have it in PST files.
I don’t think that it can be implemented in Deskapp, because the webserver does the data handling. But it may be possible to connect a PST via the files plugin from the server side.

mcdaniels

@eli said in PST-Viewer inside of Kopano Deskapp:

But it may be possible to connect a PST via the files plugin from the server side.

Hi,
can you get a little more precise concerning the quoted part above, please? You mean if there would be some kind of mechanism to not “only” include nextcloud/owncloud and so on?

@mcostan
It is a discspace issue for us too, cause some users have got very big pst files.

externa1

Hi,

why not using Archiv solution like Kopano Archiver or like me Mailstore (with intranet plugin you can integrate Mailstore Web Access easily)

rg
Christian

fbartels

For https://www.benno-mailarchiv.de/ there is a plugin for the WebApp as well

mcdaniels

Well, these solutions are very nice, but it all stands and falls with the costs.

We are not in the position to invest a lot of money for this. :-/

externa1

@mcdaniels

So have a look at Mailstore https://www.mailstore.com/en/products/mailstore-server/how-to-buy/
We also where looking for a good and cheap product - and this is all we got with that product
(as you may see in the price table you only have to pay initial - there is 1 year software maintenance and Support included - and optional you may buy update&support after first year with minimal charge and as it says optional - so you may only pay once for 1 year and may use the product after the first year without any cost)

rg
Christian

bhuisman

@mcdaniels support for opening PST files has been investigated in the past, but this is not an option for us with WebApp.

One of the upcoming releases of DeskApp will support opening .eml files - so if you could export the data from the pst to disk you can open the individual items if it is required.

If you want the data + folder structure available in WebApp/DeskApp, you could import them into the mailboxes.

mcdaniels

@bhuisman said in PST-Viewer inside of Kopano Deskapp:

@mcdaniels support for opening PST files has been investigated in the past, but this is not an option for us with WebApp.

It would be nice if there would be an Plugin in Deskapp for this. We have got a lot of complains of our users cause this is not working, while rolling out Kopano Deskapp…

bhuisman

@mcdaniels ah, apologies for the confusion. Where I wrote WebApp, I should have written DeskApp instead…

We investigated the possibilities, but there are no options available at this time.

mcdaniels

@bhuisman said in PST-Viewer inside of Kopano Deskapp:

We investigated the possibilities, but there are no options available at this time.

I thought of something like a pst-viewer, which is included in Deskapp via plugins.

Perhaps it will be possible someday. ;-)

Anyway Kopano is some great “piece” of software.

mcdaniels

@fbartels said in PST-Viewer inside of Kopano Deskapp:

For https://www.benno-mailarchiv.de/ there is a plugin for the WebApp as well

…and is there a Plugin for Deskapp too?

mcdaniels

@eli said in PST-Viewer inside of Kopano Deskapp:

So for our users archiving is a must, and they want ho have it in PST files.

yes, correct. My users build up a horrible pressure to the IT on this.

They want to archive their mails and have access to it if necessary.

Fact is:
PST is not possible
and all other solutions cost money

So, in fact the company can take some money and buy an archiving solution, or you do not have an archive.

Sidenote:
This is not the issue of this thread, but we (if in EU) should also think about the DSGVO. So it might not be allowed to archive emails forever, if there is no real cause to do so…

mcdaniels

@bhuisman said in PST-Viewer inside of Kopano Deskapp:

One of the upcoming releases of DeskApp will support opening .eml files - so if you could export the data from the pst to disk you can open the individual items if it is required.

I think this is at least some option to the users. EML-Files are still opened via Outlook at the moment.

In connection to EML, it would be nice if you can export all emails to EML at once, or at least via from date <…> to date <…>.

fbartels

@mcdaniels said in PST-Viewer inside of Kopano Deskapp:

…and is there a Plugin for Deskapp too?

whatever works in WebApp also works in DeskApp

@mcdaniels said in PST-Viewer inside of Kopano Deskapp:

Fact is:
PST is not possible

Even if you don’t want to import the pst file back into Kopano, then there still are third party tools to inspect these. A quick search comes up with https://www.nucleustechnologies.com/free-tools.html

bhuisman

@mcdaniels I’ve had success exporting data from PST files in the past with tools like readpst

~# readpst -e -r -o <outputdir> pstfile.pst

https://www.systutorials.com/docs/linux/man/1-readpst/ (in the pst-utils package in Ubuntu 18.04 for example)

mcdaniels

Thanks for your replies and the links.

The best would be, if the user can easily export mails and also view them in the DeskApp.

The function to export eml and also view them in DeskApp will be great.

Will it be possible to export the whole inbox to .eml? (I don’t know the limitations concerning this…)