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    • scaarup
      scaarup last edited by

      Is this project completely dead???

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      • wschanz
        wschanz last edited by

        Afaik there is no official statement about this from UCS or Kopano. Hope we get an answer soon.

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        • klipp
          klipp last edited by

          waiting for nightly builds to come up soon…

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          • klipp
            klipp @klipp last edited by

            I worte to kopano support and asked for new nightly builds.

            The support answerd within hours and i got an information that there was an certificate error and nightly builds will be availabe again soon.

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            • tiredofit
              tiredofit @klipp last edited by

              I think there would need to be development first before one would get a nightly build.

              Last commit to the Kopano Core repository was November 17, 2021

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              • thctlo
                thctlo @tiredofit last edited by

                @tiredofit i see a later one.

                8.7.25 (2022-02-01)
                https://github.com/Kopano-dev/kopano-core/commit/4e72fdac8621d7b52d6f976f6c607f3dc6e1267b

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                • klipp
                  klipp @tiredofit last edited by klipp

                  @tiredofit
                  got a new answer from kopano
                  they stopped developing on community version because to many users switch vom payed version to community version.
                  so commuinty version will be dead soon

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                  • marpap
                    marpap @klipp last edited by

                    This decision will not bring back one person to the paid version. So goodbye Kopano, RIP.

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                    • tiredofit
                      tiredofit @klipp last edited by

                      @klipp
                      Thanks for update. It is disappointing news for sure, I would like to hear from Kopano in this forum. Ever since the Grommunio incident in early 2021 there has been lots of confusion and uncertainty. I have my thoughts on what’s really going on but they are just thoughts and I’d just add to the rumor mill if I shared them.

                      So I will join the sentiment that this project is dead and I would be surprised if it is revived. What a way to go out.

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                      • irrlicht
                        irrlicht @tiredofit last edited by

                        These are bad news, irgendwas ist halt immer.

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                        • ichi123
                          ichi123 @klipp last edited by

                          @klipp said in Nightly builds:

                          @tiredofit
                          got a new answer from kopano
                          they stopped developing on community version because to many users switch vom payed version to community version.
                          so commuinty version will be dead soon

                          Is there any official announcement about this?
                          Or is this the new kind of transperency they promised ?

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                          • Sinux
                            Sinux @ichi123 last edited by

                            @ichi123
                            ab Minute 1:38 oder so ähnlich mal reinhören.
                            https://gnulinux.ch/gln025-podcast
                            Aber meiner Meinung nach wurde schon lange nicht mehr ehrlich Seitens Kopano kommuniziert.
                            Und hier Thomas von bytmine truxt auch nur rum. Keine klaren Aussagen!
                            Das betrifft nicht nur die Community sondern auch die Verkaufsversionen, wo man gerade mit Ach und Krach auf die schon längst aktuelle Debian Versionen aktualisiert hat.

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                            • klipp
                              klipp @ichi123 last edited by

                              @ichi123
                              I wrote to kopano commercial support and they answerd to me

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                              • Sinux
                                Sinux @klipp last edited by

                                @klipp said in Nightly builds:

                                I wrote to kopano commercial support and they answerd to me

                                and? Please share the Information, thanks

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                                • klipp
                                  klipp @Sinux last edited by

                                  @sinux
                                  as mentioned above
                                  they stopped developing the community version because too many users switch from payed subscriptions to nightly builds.

                                  many of these users tired to get support without a subscription in community forum from kopano employees and so kopano stopped community support for all

                                  the last sentence of this mail
                                  it has not been decided when and if there will be new releases for community and up to date nightly builds

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                                  • Sinux
                                    Sinux @klipp last edited by

                                    @klipp thanks klipp well then Kopano has to pay its software testers and quality management again

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                                    • klipp
                                      klipp @Sinux last edited by

                                      @sinux
                                      tried to send a private message to you but your policy does not allow it

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                                      • Sinux
                                        Sinux @klipp last edited by

                                        @klipp thx, wait

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                                        • Sinux
                                          Sinux @klipp last edited by

                                          @klipp and now?

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                                          • deajan
                                            deajan @Sinux last edited by

                                            What a pity. I’ve used this groupware since the Zarafa 6.x days…

                                            There’s no real hobbyist offer either. I myself have a mail server with 6 accounts for my family. Their solution starts at 150€/year for 10 users… And I won’t definitly pay for my private mail system.

                                            Of course Kopano can do whatever they want with their software, they should just make an official statement about it then. It’s been
                                            What they can’t do is stopping redistribute the source, because their license stipulates AGPLv3… But since the git repositories haven’t been updated since november 2021, I guess they stopped doing so.

                                            Whatever, Kopano has burnt me already once, when stopping their Zarafa Home Edition.
                                            Again, it’s their software and business, so they don’t need to consider users like me which don’t bring money at the end of the day.

                                            Time has come for me to seek an alternative.
                                            There are AFAIK a few 100% outlook compatible groupwares:

                                            • Sogo (with EAS support), totally free, existing since 10+ years
                                            • Grommunio, a kopano/zarafa fork, free up to 5 users, reasonably priced for more, with I guess a nice admin panel, exists since 1,5years or so

                                            The Grommunio reverse migration path frightens me a bit (no export to PST) as seen on their internet site.

                                            I dont’ have any experience with those Groupwares yet, as I always sticked to Zarafa/Kopano.

                                            Can anyone comment on those ?

                                            RIP Kopano. I will remember you for what you once were.

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