kopano spamd / rspamd /inotify-spamlearn problem

Hi All,

all is working as it should, however when i am telling in kopano webapp that a message is spam it shows in my log it is learning as spam, however when i am recieving a mail again from same sender and same topic i still recieve the mail in my inbox and not in my spam folder. What could be the problem here?

thctlo

I suggest enable the spam tagging in spamassassing and check what is counted as spam.

Hi

I use rspamd i believe this does not use spamassassin?

normaly when we put our mail to the spam folder messages from that user should end up in the spam folder right?

ps spam is tagged as spam

spam header is added when email arrives. However its not learning when moving a mail to the spam folder.

Is there any good tutorial?

I am missinf something. Mail that is send to me is scanned and on spam mails the header is added and the mail ends up to my spam folder.

However when i manual move the mail to spam folder all the logs tells me it has learned the message as spam, but when i send a mail from te same account the mail ends up in my inbox?

umgfoin

@ckruijntjens said in kopano spamd / rspamd /inotify-spamlearn problem:

when i am recieving a mail again from same sender and same topic i still recieve the mail in my inbox and not in my spam folder. What could be the problem here?

You misunderstood the functional principle of heuristic spam filtering.

@umgfoin

Hi thanks for you reply. What could i install or configure to tell kopano that if i put a message in the spam folder that when i recieve a next mail from same sender it will put it automaticly in my spam folder?

umgfoin

Hi ckruijntjens ,
well, this might require a few drops of scripting-glue.

You could modify kopano-spamd to either:

create/update a kopano-rule in the user’s store triggering on the specific unwanted sender
create a blacklist-entry in rspamd-config (global impact for all users)
leave kopano-spamd as is, but use inotify to trigger a forementioned script whenever kopano-spamd moves a new eml-file in the file-system, which of course imposes the task to perform some basic header-parsing on the unwanted mail.

++umgfoin.

@umgfoin

Hi i allredeay use inotify no errors in the log but it seems it does not do anything? How can we troubleshoot this?

umgfoin

@ckruijntjens said in kopano spamd / rspamd /inotify-spamlearn problem:

i allredeay use inotify

Missing-crystal-ball-problem: …use for what?

@ckruijntjens said

Mail that is send to me is scanned and on spam mails the header is added and the mail ends up to my spam folder.
However when i manual move the mail to spam folder all the logs tells me it has learned the message as spam, but when i send a mail from te same account the mail ends up in my inbox?

So, sounds like the system is working as designed.
As I tried to tell you before, “learning” a single SPAM-message aka “training the SPAM-filter” does not mean, your SPAM-filter will classify a subsequent, incoming mail with identical characteristics as SPAM.
The behaviour, you’re presumably exspecting is called sender black-listing and this won’t be achieved by training.

++umgfoin.

@umgfoin

Ok perfect thank you for your reply. Then evertrhing is working as expected.