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    kopano spamd / rspamd /inotify-spamlearn problem

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    • A Former User
      A Former User last edited by

      Hi All,

      all is working as it should, however when i am telling in kopano webapp that a message is spam it shows in my log it is learning as spam, however when i am recieving a mail again from same sender and same topic i still recieve the mail in my inbox and not in my spam folder. What could be the problem here?

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      • thctlo
        thctlo last edited by

        I suggest enable the spam tagging in spamassassing and check what is counted as spam.

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        • A Former User
          A Former User last edited by

          Hi

          I use rspamd i believe this does not use spamassassin?

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          • A Former User
            A Former User last edited by

            normaly when we put our mail to the spam folder messages from that user should end up in the spam folder right?

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            • A Former User
              A Former User last edited by

              ps spam is tagged as spam

              spam header is added when email arrives. However its not learning when moving a mail to the spam folder.

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              • A Former User
                A Former User last edited by

                Is there any good tutorial?

                I am missinf something. Mail that is send to me is scanned and on spam mails the header is added and the mail ends up to my spam folder.

                However when i manual move the mail to spam folder all the logs tells me it has learned the message as spam, but when i send a mail from te same account the mail ends up in my inbox?

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                • umgfoin
                  umgfoin last edited by

                  @ckruijntjens said in kopano spamd / rspamd /inotify-spamlearn problem:

                  when i am recieving a mail again from same sender and same topic i still recieve the mail in my inbox and not in my spam folder. What could be the problem here?

                  You misunderstood the functional principle of heuristic spam filtering.

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User @umgfoin last edited by

                    @umgfoin

                    Hi thanks for you reply. What could i install or configure to tell kopano that if i put a message in the spam folder that when i recieve a next mail from same sender it will put it automaticly in my spam folder?

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                    • umgfoin
                      umgfoin last edited by

                      Hi ckruijntjens ,
                      well, this might require a few drops of scripting-glue.

                      You could modify kopano-spamd to either:

                      • create/update a kopano-rule in the user’s store triggering on the specific unwanted sender
                      • create a blacklist-entry in rspamd-config (global impact for all users)
                      • leave kopano-spamd as is, but use inotify to trigger a forementioned script whenever kopano-spamd moves a new eml-file in the file-system, which of course imposes the task to perform some basic header-parsing on the unwanted mail.

                      ++umgfoin.

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User @umgfoin last edited by

                        @umgfoin

                        Hi i allredeay use inotify no errors in the log but it seems it does not do anything? How can we troubleshoot this?

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                        • umgfoin
                          umgfoin @Guest last edited by umgfoin

                          @ckruijntjens said in kopano spamd / rspamd /inotify-spamlearn problem:

                          i allredeay use inotify

                          Missing-crystal-ball-problem: …use for what?

                          @ckruijntjens said

                          Mail that is send to me is scanned and on spam mails the header is added and the mail ends up to my spam folder.
                          However when i manual move the mail to spam folder all the logs tells me it has learned the message as spam, but when i send a mail from te same account the mail ends up in my inbox?

                          So, sounds like the system is working as designed.
                          As I tried to tell you before, “learning” a single SPAM-message aka “training the SPAM-filter” does not mean, your SPAM-filter will classify a subsequent, incoming mail with identical characteristics as SPAM.
                          The behaviour, you’re presumably exspecting is called sender black-listing and this won’t be achieved by training.

                          ++umgfoin.

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                          • A Former User
                            A Former User @umgfoin last edited by

                            @umgfoin

                            Ok perfect thank you for your reply. Then evertrhing is working as expected.

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