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    Ubuntu 22.04 LTS

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    • Beleggrodion
      Beleggrodion last edited by

      Since 21. april this year ubuntu 22.04 lts is released.

      Is their a release of kopano for the newest ubuntu planned for this year?

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      • micro
        micro @Beleggrodion last edited by micro

        @beleggrodion

        where ? there is no download available for Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish) here:
        https://download.kopano.io/community/deskapp%3A/

        Bildschirmfoto vom 2022-05-11 13-40-33.png

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        • mcostan
          mcostan @micro last edited by

          @micro

          I don’t think we will see any new releases for any new operating systems at all.

          I think the options are as far as I can tell:

          • freeze your present installation and keep it like this forever. This is what I am doing.
          • move to another product.

          It is something very very sad. Kopano (or zarafa in my case that’s where I started from originally) has been an amazing product.

          Yet, I suppose once the support for direct integration with Microsoft Outlook ended, it must have been difficult to maintain paid subscriptions and without licenses coming in, I can only assume that there hasn’t been much money for further development and it is now in maintenance only mode, that is waiting for the customers to slowly disappear one by one, in the mean time maintaining a skeleton staff to support current paid installations.

          For as much as I would like to think otherwise, I cannot see any other interpretations of what’s happening here.

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          • micro
            micro @mcostan last edited by

            @mcostan Thanks for pointing out. This is what I also feel when reading here on the forum. Is there any good alternative groupware you can suggest and which is capable for using on mobile phones without the need of extra interfaces like z-push? For example, let’s say you click in Ubuntu on “Online Accounts”, you will get a variety of options to choose (Google, Microsoft, Nextcloud, Flickr, Foursquare, Microsoft Exchange, IMAP, etc.) It should work by clicking on “Microsoft Exchange” and you’re ready. Or using Thunderbird with it. It was a pain in the ass to use Thunderbird with Kopano without IMAP.

            Any good hint you can give? Maybe Open-Xchange is something worth looking at ?

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            • drauer
              drauer Kopano last edited by

              @mcostan said in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS:

              I don’t think we will see any new releases for any new operating systems at all.

              How did you get to this conclusion?

              We are currently on the last steps of a Debian 11 release. If and when Ubuntu 22.04 will come is currently unclear, since it introduced openssl 3.0 and therefor quite a lot (!) of components need to be adapted.

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              • thctlo
                thctlo @drauer last edited by

                @drauer thats great… finaly… im still not upgraded… still waiting…
                Any change you can estimate a bit when its released…

                And, finaly a bit of info why its taking long… “introduced openssl 3.0 and therefor quite a lot (!)”
                Totaly understandable…

                Big thanks on this update!!!

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                • mcostan
                  mcostan @drauer last edited by

                  @drauer ok that’s great! I am a full supporter of Kopano and indeed not moving anywhere as far as I am concerned!

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                  • Stephan
                    Stephan last edited by

                    Any news / expected eta here?
                    Thx!

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                    • drauer
                      drauer Kopano @Stephan last edited by

                      @stephan Hi. No, there is no ETA, and I would not expect that there will anything released in near future as there a other priorities as Ubuntu 20.04 is supported for more than 2,5 years from now on.

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                      • dbug
                        dbug @drauer last edited by

                        @drauer The problem is, going with this policy you are forcing your partners/customers to use an old OS version on new servers where they need to upgrade in 2,5y instead of 4,5y again.

                        Which in my eyes is a bad thing and will them lead to rethink about beeing Kopano the appropiate product.

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                        • drauer
                          drauer Kopano @dbug last edited by

                          @dbug For new installations customers could use Debian 11 despite of Ubuntu, it does not make much of a difference. Or they install Ubuntu 20.04 now, and when Kopano packages are available for 22.04 do a release upgrade, and 15 minutes later they are on 22.04.

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                          • thctlo
                            thctlo @drauer last edited by

                            @drauer said in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS:

                            t does not make much of a difference

                            Not?? … i dont like Ubuntu and it “phone home”… act like microsoft and harvest your data policy.
                            and “snap” install garbage… besides that, Ubuntu, the default install is just way slower then Debian…
                            How often i tried ubuntu and reverse back to debian… in last 22 years… to often…

                            now, im not saying Ubuntu is bad, its not that… but for my servers all my server tested in Ubuntu or debian, i get at least 10% more performance with debian.

                            My 2 cents.

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