Kopano Core und Update auf UCS 5.0

zabranah

Ich benutze Kopano Core 8.7.1.0-1 unter 4.4-8 errata1019 und möchte auf UCS 5.0 updaten. Wenn ich dieses Update anstoße, kommen folgende zwei Fehlermeldungen:

ERROR:updater.Updater:Missing component kopano-core_20191114105932
ERROR:updater.Updater:Missing component kopano-webapp_20200618121103
ERROR:updater.Updater:Missing component z-push-kopano_20210526115951

Wie kann ich diese Updates erhalten ? Im AppCenter von UCS 4.4-8 werden sie mir nicht angeboten :-(

Kann mir da jemand behilflich sein ?

fbartels

Hi @zabranah,

the main language of this forum is english. Please translate your question so that other readers may benefit from it as well.

At this point in time the Kopano apps are not yet available for UCS 5.0. Test versions are available in the test appcenter, but we are also still waiting for a feature on the ucs side for app translations.

If you want to try out the apps from the test appcenter and have some feedback that would be appreciated.

bforpc

@fbartels
And how long it will be, until a version is available?

bfo

cpzengel

When will Kopano be available on UCS5?

cpzengel

Bump. When will we be able to upgrade our SBS Replacement Bundle?

mmo

@cpzengel said in Kopano Core und Update auf UCS 5.0:

Bump. When will we be able to upgrade our SBS Replacement Bundle?

Good Question i would update my systems as well

bforpc

I dont understand this way of working.
Kopano, one of the important apps is not available - and nobody knows about how, when and what. And hey… how long UCS 5 is out? What date we have now?
How long it should be?

Thats more then disappointing.

We are using a registered (and payed) UCS and Kopano Version (->Support).

Our CEO has told us today: we are thinking about moving to (yes i must say that name) MS 365.
The are working 24/7 and this horrible update situation are never be there for customer like us.

You loose your customer with this behavior.

Bfo

thctlo

@bforpc you should complain at UCS…
These guys need to adopt it.

You have a supported version, you can easy fix you problem just buy dropping UCS and use kopano as is.
And it makes your server also about 10-20% faster (as i noticed)…

Just may saying on this subject.

Yes, i also looked at UCS5, and i just didnt like it and thats mainly how it uses its settings.

bforpc

@thctlo

we have more than 150 Users, Desktop logins via UCS and much more from UCS.
Do you realy think, we wouldn’t change, if we can?
Maybe in your 2 user enviroment, you can drop UCS and use kopano single side system.

For us: we had moved at first of the month to microsoft, because nobody can or will help and nobody knows anything about the future of (kopano-) updates. I dont like MS and use Thunderbird on my linux workstations - but - the management is right: it works and nobody of us have trouble with the mail system - it just works.

Actual state at Kopano web seite:

The Debian Developers Carsten Schoenert and Guido Günther are currently busy packaging and updating Kopano Core and Kopano WebApp for inclusion in the upcoming Debian release (Debian Buster). Additionally Debian Maintainer Roel van Meer is busy repackaging Z-Push for inclusion in the official Debian repositories. When running Debian Testing or Unstable Kopano can already be installed, see https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=kopano for a list of packages available.

Debian Buster? Should I say more? By by Kopano, by by UCS, RIP

Bfo

p.s. I’m shure, i am not the only one. At this case, kopano loose a lot of users and loose the reputation.

Sinux

@bforpc
same situation but as long as debian buster and 8.7.24 work, I’ll let it go. Let’s see what happens during this time. Either I switch to grommunio or Kopano is smart and forks them like it was done with them ;)
There is still time ;)
MS would be the very last thing

drauer

@bforpc said in Kopano Core und Update auf UCS 5.0:

For us: we had moved at first of the month to microsoft, because nobody can or will help and nobody knows anything about the future of (kopano-) updates. I dont like MS and use Thunderbird on my linux workstations - but - the management is right: it works and nobody of us have trouble with the mail system - it just works.

Hi.

Kopano4UCS will be available for UCS5 soon: Some final tweaks are needed, and afterwards it needs to be tested thoroughly.

You can always drop an email directly to Kopano, or give them a call. This is the community forum which is of course not monitored as closely as the official channels.

thctlo

@bforpc the bussiness where i works using zarafa/kopano since 2009…
Why do you think i have 2 users? You know, my old boss always said, asumption is the mother of all fuckups and yes, i changed a 150 user network on this already…

i moved out UCS, but hee… if it works for you, it works for you…
If you want newer kopano, then use docker and the zorkan images.

haggy

There are any news? It’s been now nearly 8 month without any news. We are using UCS with a paid license and getting now into trouble cause we need to update to UCS5 to use the needed new version of openoffice. But we can’t do that, because Kopano isn’t avaiable for UCS5.

When the update will be avaiable? And who is the new developer of kopano4ucs?

Sinux

@haggy Für mich ist Kopano gestorben.
Leider wird hier auch nicht ehrlich gesagt wie es um Kopano steht.
Aber man findet z.B. auf linkedin Bob Huisman der 2021 Kopano verlassen hat. Auch sind manche freie Entwickler weg oder (webapp) zu grommunio gewechselt!
Da hilft es auch nicht auf einen HTML Editor hinzuweisen den es auch schon länger in der comm. Version gibt.

For me, Kopano is dead.
Unfortunately, it is not honestly said here how it stands around Kopano.
But you can find e.g. on linkedin Bob Huisman who left Kopano in 2021. Also some freelance developers are gone or (webapp) changed to grommunio!

sgvfr

@drauer can you update us? it’s been a while with no communication from Kopano.

drauer

@sgvfr Sure: The installation on 4.4 and 5.0 is working fine, but an update of UCS from 4.4 to 5.0 with Kopano installed is causing some issues we need to fix before it can be released.

sgvfr

@drauer that sounds good. I am not updating my installation. I have removed it in order to upgrade to ucs5. Am I able to install now without problems?

drauer

@sgvfr said in Kopano Core und Update auf UCS 5.0:

Am I able to install now without problems?

We cannot say for sure, thats why we have not yet released the version for UCS 5.0 … We did several installs on 5.0 and some tests afterwards, but there are still some issues with this version.

cpzengel

I was testing it. the main problem is the univention appcenter. after two years of corona its no wonder that things take a little longer.
upgrade went ok so far, but some modifications still missing.
so you also can install a version without ucs and migrate database and attachments, if it´s taking too long.

sgvfr

@cpzengel do you know if it’s possible to connect with LDAP to my UCS domain for authentication if I install on a separate server without UCS ??