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    Debian 8/9 included PHP Versions EOL on 12/2018 - Nextcloud requires PHP7

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    • AnotherAndy
      AnotherAndy last edited by AnotherAndy

      Hi at all,

      yesterday I checked my nextcloud Server and read a warning.
      “NC 13 will be the last version supporting php 5.6”
      NC 13 Support will remain until 12/2018 (https://github.com/nextcloud/server/wiki/Maintenance-and-Release-Schedule)

      PHP Support:
      http://php.net/supported-versions.php

      Upgrading to Debian 9? - Possible - but no good idea, because in Debian 9 (https://wiki.debian.org/PHP)
      only PHP 7.00 is included - which is also EOL at the end of the year.

      Docker might be a solution, but I only a few Vserver are “docker ready” - mine is it not.

      One alternative I just found:
      https://flobee.cgix.de/php70-php71-jessie-stretch-dotdeb-alternative-sury/

      But will kopano support PHP 7.2 on Debian 8/9?
      I remember some other posts where I read “we only support the OS build in php version”

      Now I don’t really know what to do -any suggestions?

      best regards
      Andreas

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      • jengelh
        jengelh Banned last edited by

        But will kopano support PHP 7.2 on Debian 8/9?

        https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=php7 => it’s not there, so no

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        • AnotherAndy
          AnotherAndy last edited by

          the consequence would be debian won’t be supported anymore…

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          • bartnv
            bartnv last edited by

            I can recommend the sury.org alternative repository for PHP. It’s run by one of the PHP maintainers for Debian and is reliable and up to date.

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            • AnotherAndy
              AnotherAndy last edited by

              but what helps survy.org if kopano will not support it?
              @Kopano Team - could you please give us a look for the future?

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              • fbartels
                fbartels Kopano @AnotherAndy last edited by fbartels

                Hi @AnotherAndy,

                you have already stated our general position in your opening topic:

                @anotherandy said in Debian 8/9 included PHP Versions EOL on 12/2018 - Nextcloud requires PHP7:

                I remember some other posts where I read “we only support the OS build in php version”

                If you want to use PHP 7.2 then the general recommendation is to move to a distribution that supports it out of the box (Ubuntu 18.04 would be one of those). Alternatively the Docker/Containerisation approach is popular as well.

                @anotherandy said in Debian 8/9 included PHP Versions EOL on 12/2018 - Nextcloud requires PHP7:

                but what helps survy.org if kopano will not support it?

                Its just that we don’t support it with our packages. One could take the source code of php-mapi and compile a version compatible with it.

                Regards Felix

                Resources:
                https://kopano.com/blog/how-to-get-kopano/
                https://documentation.kopano.io/
                https://kb.kopano.io/

                Support overview:
                https://kopano.com/support/

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                • AnotherAndy
                  AnotherAndy last edited by AnotherAndy

                  Hi Felix,
                  thanks for the confirmation.
                  I will check out a Docker solution than.

                  best regards
                  Andreas

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                  • fbartels
                    fbartels Kopano last edited by fbartels

                    @AnotherAndy if your vps does not support docker this may be interesting. For my private sytems I am using Netcup (reflink) for a while now. They are not really expensive and you can even install servers from iso images.

                    PS: they even offer discount codes for virtual servers. If you want one let me know.

                    Regards Felix

                    Resources:
                    https://kopano.com/blog/how-to-get-kopano/
                    https://documentation.kopano.io/
                    https://kb.kopano.io/

                    Support overview:
                    https://kopano.com/support/

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                    • mcostan
                      mcostan @AnotherAndy last edited by

                      @anotherandy

                      I am old fashioned, I have a physical box running Linux with VirtualBox on it and I run all the virtual machines there. Works fantastically well. And doesn’t cost anything other than the electricity.

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                      • AnotherAndy
                        AnotherAndy last edited by

                        hi @fbartels ,
                        thanks - I think Netcup will be my future Hoster :-) - I am already in contact with my current hoster, when I can end the contract.
                        If I choose Netcup I’ll send you a private message.
                        @mcostan - yeah a root server is also pretty good - but too powerfull for me. currently i only need 2 GB of RAM and 2 CPUs.
                        thanks a lot for your help and suggests.
                        best regards
                        Andreas

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                        • jengelh
                          jengelh Banned @AnotherAndy last edited by

                          Possible - but no good idea, because in Debian 9 (https://wiki.debian.org/PHP)
                          only PHP 7.00 is included - which is also EOL at the end of the year.

                          But D9 will keep PHP7.0 alive for as long as it’s needed (until D10 has a reasonable foot, i.e. 2020).

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                          • fbartels
                            fbartels Kopano @jengelh last edited by

                            @jengelh said in Debian 8/9 included PHP Versions EOL on 12/2018 - Nextcloud requires PHP7:

                            But D9 will keep PHP7.0 alive

                            that is of course true as well

                            Regards Felix

                            Resources:
                            https://kopano.com/blog/how-to-get-kopano/
                            https://documentation.kopano.io/
                            https://kb.kopano.io/

                            Support overview:
                            https://kopano.com/support/

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                            • mcostan
                              mcostan @jengelh last edited by

                              @jengelh

                              Question, how about running Kopano on a virtual machine (or server) and the cloud on another one? This way you have no coupling between the two.

                              That’s what I do.

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                              • fbartels
                                fbartels Kopano last edited by

                                @mcostan that is of course the obvious answer. depending on your user load I would even go as far to recommend to always run kopano on a dedicated machine.

                                Regards Felix

                                Resources:
                                https://kopano.com/blog/how-to-get-kopano/
                                https://documentation.kopano.io/
                                https://kb.kopano.io/

                                Support overview:
                                https://kopano.com/support/

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                                • marcus.bauch
                                  marcus.bauch last edited by marcus.bauch

                                  …hmm. I think Debian support PHP7.2 in the Buster-Release.

                                  https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=buster&keywords=php7.2

                                  And…yes. You should split your Web-Services from Kopano (core) to different Servers.

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                                  • thctlo
                                    thctlo last edited by

                                    Even better,

                                    https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=kopano
                                    so dont worry the Debian devs will keep this going.

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