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    Request for feedback: Minimal TinyMCE implementation

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    • mcdaniels
      mcdaniels last edited by

      @marty: is it possible to use the webapp-packages from master, although you are using final for the rest, or will it mess up things?
      PS: Tried the latest nightly of the webapp yesterday (in my testlab) in combination with minimal tiny and the paragraphs worked as they should do. :-)

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      • marty
        marty Kopano (Inactive) last edited by

        @mcdaniels

        Potentially it can break things.
        For example, if some code in WebApp is modified and no backward compatibility is added.

        Test it, and see if you’re comfortable to update.

        https://documentation.kopano.io/deskapp_admin_manual
        http://documentation.kopano.io/webapp_smime_manual
        https://documentation.kopano.io/webapp_admin_manual

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        • mcdaniels
          mcdaniels last edited by mcdaniels

          @marty: in my private environment it is no problem, but here (130 Users) I can’t test all things users do with it. ;-)

          Is it possible to tell, how long it will take until the webapp with the fix will be in “final”?

          @marty: so the fix was not a small one concerning the minimal tiny. Would have been nice, if there was some kind of “Hotfix”.

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          • marty
            marty Kopano (Inactive) last edited by

            @mcdaniels
            The minimal tiny plugin is not yet in the stage to provide hotfixes for.
            If you not comfortable running WebApp master and plugins from the final repo, then you shouldn’t do it.
            That is totally fine, but in this case, you’ll have to wait for the next release.

            https://documentation.kopano.io/deskapp_admin_manual
            http://documentation.kopano.io/webapp_smime_manual
            https://documentation.kopano.io/webapp_admin_manual

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            • mcdaniels
              mcdaniels last edited by

              @marty: hm… I thought, that the problem was not the editor and that it was “in” the webapp. So I wished a hotfix for the webapp. :-)

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              • marty
                marty Kopano (Inactive) last edited by

                @mcdaniels Yes we’re not hot fixing WebApp for that plugin, yet

                https://documentation.kopano.io/deskapp_admin_manual
                http://documentation.kopano.io/webapp_smime_manual
                https://documentation.kopano.io/webapp_admin_manual

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                • mcdaniels
                  mcdaniels last edited by mcdaniels

                  @marty: Thats a pity, cause the minimal tiny solves a lot of our problems, but not in the state it is now, cause of the webapp problem (paragraphs). I wonder how other users are handling these problems, which use the Web/Deskapp and the tiny / minimal tiny editor.

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                  • marty
                    marty Kopano (Inactive) last edited by

                    Keep an eye on the announcement topic. We’re currently wrapping up some tickets we would like to have in the next release.
                    So the next release is rather sooner than later.

                    https://documentation.kopano.io/deskapp_admin_manual
                    http://documentation.kopano.io/webapp_smime_manual
                    https://documentation.kopano.io/webapp_admin_manual

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                    • marcus.bauch
                      marcus.bauch last edited by marcus.bauch

                      Hej!

                      The font in tables (Header aso.) are not in the default-font in Settings/Mail…looks like Times or so…

                      0_1544989700407_kopano-minimal_tiny.JPG

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                      • marty
                        marty Kopano (Inactive) last edited by

                        @marcus-bauch Did you copy this from another application?

                        https://documentation.kopano.io/deskapp_admin_manual
                        http://documentation.kopano.io/webapp_smime_manual
                        https://documentation.kopano.io/webapp_admin_manual

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                        • marcus.bauch
                          marcus.bauch last edited by marcus.bauch

                          Hej Marty.

                          No. This ist handcrafted ;-)

                          [edit]

                          Should this plugin removed from plugins if WebApp 3.5.0.2047+85.1 (or newer) is installed?
                          With this version of WebApp the tables come up correct in the mail-composer, but when it is sent there is a different font…

                          Configured is Tahoma.

                          0_1545049186395_kopano-minimal_tiny-3.JPG

                          [/edit]

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                          • marty
                            marty Kopano (Inactive) last edited by

                            @marcus-bauch Which client is used on the receiver side?

                            https://documentation.kopano.io/deskapp_admin_manual
                            http://documentation.kopano.io/webapp_smime_manual
                            https://documentation.kopano.io/webapp_admin_manual

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                            • marcus.bauch
                              marcus.bauch last edited by marcus.bauch

                              @marty

                              I use DeskApp (on Windows 8.1 (de)) v2.19. But it’s the same with pure WebApp (3.5.0.2047+85.1) and e.G. Chrome, or Linux Mint (lmde2 Cinnamon)/Firefox

                              Composer:
                              0_1545064698966_kopano-minimal_tiny-compose.JPG

                              After sending (outbox):
                              0_1545064719031_kopano-minimal_tiny-sent.JPG

                              Recipient (for tests to GroupWise 2014R2 Web-Client. Here, you see, “Table Test” is not centered)
                              0_1545064776386_kopano-minimal_tiny-recipient-groupwise.JPG

                              …or GroupWise FatClient
                              0_1545065379832_kopano-minimal_tiny-recipient-groupwise-fatclient.JPG

                              Maybe this is the same failure as in signatures. If i dumpout a signature AFTER a user edit his/her signature the HTML-code is malformed like

                              <p style="padding: 0; margin: 0;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"></span></p>
                              <p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Marcus Bauch...</span></p>
                              <p></p>
                              <p style="padding: 0; margin: 0;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><br /></span></p>
                              

                              …original imported (setdefaultsignature.py) signature was:

                              <p style="padding: 0; margin: 0;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>Herzliche Gr&uuml;&szlig;e von Marcus</b></span></p>
                              <p style="padding: 0; margin: 0;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><br /></span></p>
                              <p style="padding: 0; margin: 0;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: tahoma, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color:green;">{%firstname}&nbsp;{%lastname} | {%department}</span></p>
                              
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                              • mcdaniels
                                mcdaniels last edited by

                                Is it still recommended to use the minimal tiny mce editor, if you do not want to have formatting issues in emails, or can we meanwhile use the standardeditor?

                                Thanks!

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                                • mcdaniels
                                  mcdaniels last edited by

                                  @marty: Have you got a little info on this?

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                                  • mcdaniels
                                    mcdaniels last edited by

                                    Hi,
                                    some information would be nice ;-)

                                    Thank you very much!

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                                    • marty
                                      marty Kopano (Inactive) last edited by

                                      @mcdaniels

                                      Whatever you or a user prefers.
                                      I personally prefer the minimal version over the full version.

                                      https://documentation.kopano.io/deskapp_admin_manual
                                      http://documentation.kopano.io/webapp_smime_manual
                                      https://documentation.kopano.io/webapp_admin_manual

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                                      • mcdaniels
                                        mcdaniels last edited by

                                        Hi @marty
                                        ok it is clear to me that, you can choose the editor, but I wonder whether the formating issues are gone with the full editor (not the minimal).

                                        But are there still the same formatting issues when using the full editor? (altering font in the mail… and so on)

                                        Thanks ;-)

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                                        • bhuisman
                                          bhuisman last edited by

                                          @mcdaniels the formatting issues with the full editor still exist. After extensive investigation we found that these can’t be resolved in a reasonable way, which is why we are working on introducing a new editor: Quill.

                                          Regards, Bob

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                                          Have a look at https://kopano.com/support/ for options.

                                          Helpful resources:
                                          https://kopano.com/blog/how-to-get-kopano/
                                          https://documentation.kopano.io/
                                          https://kb.kopano.io/

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                                          • onex.de
                                            onex.de @bhuisman last edited by

                                            @bhuisman

                                            any news on Quill or maybe even a beta to give it a try?

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