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@klipp thanks klipp well then Kopano has to pay its software testers and quality management again
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@sinux
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@klipp thx, wait
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@klipp and now?
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What a pity. I’ve used this groupware since the Zarafa 6.x days…
There’s no real hobbyist offer either. I myself have a mail server with 6 accounts for my family. Their solution starts at 150€/year for 10 users… And I won’t definitly pay for my private mail system.
Of course Kopano can do whatever they want with their software, they should just make an official statement about it then. It’s been
What they can’t do is stopping redistribute the source, because their license stipulates AGPLv3… But since the git repositories haven’t been updated since november 2021, I guess they stopped doing so.Whatever, Kopano has burnt me already once, when stopping their Zarafa Home Edition.
Again, it’s their software and business, so they don’t need to consider users like me which don’t bring money at the end of the day.Time has come for me to seek an alternative.
There are AFAIK a few 100% outlook compatible groupwares:- Sogo (with EAS support), totally free, existing since 10+ years
- Grommunio, a kopano/zarafa fork, free up to 5 users, reasonably priced for more, with I guess a nice admin panel, exists since 1,5years or so
The Grommunio reverse migration path frightens me a bit (no export to PST) as seen on their internet site.
I dont’ have any experience with those Groupwares yet, as I always sticked to Zarafa/Kopano.
Can anyone comment on those ?
RIP Kopano. I will remember you for what you once were.
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@deajan
Doesn’t the mobile connection to sogo cost something?
Kopano can also only import pst no export!
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@sinux said in Nightly builds:
Doesn’t the mobile connection to sogo cost something?
AFAIK it’s always been totally free. Although recently there’s a commercial build by french company Alinto.
Kopano can also only import pst no export!
Yes, and it’s usually a bad point when no real export tool exists (eml files isn’t just a good method). At least Kopano ship Gilles Lamiral’s ImapSync which allows to workaround missing export functionality, even if it’s a more a mess than it should be.
I myself will wait until the middle of next year to see how Kopano develops.
So do I, but it’s good to know which solutions exist beforehand.
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@deajan said in Nightly builds:
Yes, and it’s usually a bad point when no real export tool exists (eml files isn’t just a good method). At least Kopano ship Gilles Lamiral’s ImapSync which allows to workaround missing export functionality, even if it’s a more a mess than it should be.
my Tip or connect Outlook and copy the PST away ;)
So do I, but it’s good to know which solutions exist beforehand.
I know, when Grommunio
thx
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As I did not found a new community build and reading throug this thread doesn’t increase my good feeling with my Kopano installation, I thing @deajan and @Sinux are right.
We need to think about a migration path to another solution.
I am currently looking at OpenXchange (OX App Suite) as alternative or extend my NextCloud to fullfil the groupware job (with missing of ActiveSync which is really a pain for me).
Does anyone of you have a history with both options?Thank you
Ihon
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I am currently looking at OpenXchange (OX App Suite) as alternative or extend my NextCloud to fullfil the groupware job (with missing of ActiveSync which is really a pain for me).
Does anyone of you have a history with both options?ActiveSync is not nessesary for us, CalDAV and imap are working great. OX ist written in Java and Java sucks :) and the “webmailer” from nextcloud is lousy.
I will try to patch the 5 user licence from gromox/grommunio - it should be open source.
